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explicit that an obama re-election would in their eyes doom their blood turnip businesses. but now that obama has been re-elected how have the john creators amongst us reacted. we turn to our deranged billionaire, john hodgman, john. >> oh, how dare you. >> jon: what. >> how dare you applaud me now after you shiftless moochers rejected everything that is good and right and wealthy in this world. >> jon: you're still up set that mitt romney lost. >> i don't know how, i don't understand why it happened, john. i mean we all agree that wealthy americans are the best americans. >> jon: well, not-- not everybody agrees with that. >> well, everybody one i know does and mitt romney was the wealthiest american, or at least the wealthiest who way willing to touch your hands and lift your babies. i mean romney was a rich man. and he wanted to be president watch. pore could he have done to earn your vote. i don't even know what is happening with this country any more, john. >> jon: did you just blow your nose with 100 dollar bill. >> i can't use a 50th, grant hair is too scratchy. >> jon: sorr
as the budget he just won an election on, actually. so it shouldn't be a shock that obama's opening bid is his platform. he just won an election on that platform. those are his policies, it is what he promised. negotiations are beginning but you compromise with the other guy, not with yourself. doesn't mean you're not willing to compromise. obama said as much today. >> in washington, nothing's easy, so you know, there's going to be prolonged negotiations. and all of us will have to get out of our comfort zones to make that happen. i'm willing to do that. i'm hopeful that enough members of congress in both parties are willing to do that as well. we can solve these problems. >> boehner's surprise is in part because this is a different obama he is now negotiating with. and it is not just that obama won an election. he has often compromised on his own. he has offered plans that tracked where he thought the final compromise would end up. the white house figured that by being list is us to they would win goodwill own the other side and even if they didn't, the media would come to their side realizin
in 2012, in a general election with barack obama, an african-american, a democrat, and a relatively popular president, would create a different electorate than the one you saw say in 2010 or in a primary situation? >> well, i think -- as you know, every poll starts with an assumption. here is who we think is going to show up and vote. therefore, that's who we ask the question of. republicans, and not just the romney campaign but republican pollsters all across the country, guessed wrong. we didn't see the intensity that there was there for the president, particularly among young voters. we oversampled male white voters. and, you know, you add all that together, and you're going to see two, three, four-point differences. plus, the assumption always is that the incumbent is not going to pick up any votes on election day. i think this time -- >> i think that's right. bob, you're a pro. let's go through the first one. perception is about the enthusiasm level. we were watching the last election. you could see well before the election of 2008 the excitement for obama. i felt it myself obv
people made their economic wishes clear on the election day. >> obama: this was a central questions in the election. maybe the central question in the election. you remember. we talked about this a lot. at the end of the day a clear majority of americans--democrats republicans, independents--they agreed with a balanced approach. >> eliot: republicans meanwhile openly deride the president's proposal saying they're the ones taking negotiations seriously. >> the proposal that was delivered here by secretary geithner the speaker and me yesterday was not a serious proposal. >> i mean, it's--it's--it's--it was not a serious proposal. i think the debt crisis that we face requires us to make serious decisions. >> we're not playing a game. we're being serious. >> eliot: bottom line. let's hope there is a different script being played out behind the scenes. joining me now for some serious wisdom is staff reporter for mother jones andy kroll. thank you for joining me tonight. >> my pleasure. >> eliot: is there a different script? this is a kabuki dance we're seeing played out in public. is the
for dysfunction. they want the american government to function. that's the reason why barack obama was elected and mitt romney was not elected. the american people liked most of the president's policies, and they want the government to function. if i were a house member, a republican, and i'm thinking of 2014, i would find a way to come up with real proposals and make meaningful change in the nation's tax code. >> jennifer: they are in a box. if they put a specific proposal on the table for either medicare cuts or specific loopholes they want to close whatever, it means that they're bound to those things. that's why nobody wants to put anything in writing. today speaker boehner appointed candace mill for chair the house administration committee. now all week, we've heard all the theirs were men. do you think this is intended and will quiet down the critics that the republicans weren't living? >> no. i mean, it's a nice gesture. it's wonderful to see another woman in a leadership position in congress, but the republican--enough cannot be said about the fact that they need more women. they need
're at a point where they feel like they have to give on what president obama said he won this election on, which is having wealthier americans pay higher tax rates. they want to talk about entitlements and this and that, but the tax rates on the rich are more about just this policy debate. there's sort of this philosophical thing of i won the election, and obama -- i don't see any scenario by which he's going to back down. >> one of the things he did which i found interesting, which seems an unnecessary poke in the eye was to say, you know what, as part of this deal i think we should not have congress anymore have to approve raising the debt limit. that was certainly -- >> well, when you go into a negotiation you don't come in with your compromise to start. you kind of have to start at 10 to get -- and it never worked for him before. but the offer from mitch mcconnell, the minority leader, said he laughed at timothy geithner when he presented this offer. but you have to sort of start from your negotiating ground to get to the middle. i will say that it was rejected out of hand on capitol hill, s
th election. in iowa the campaign's numbers showed them tied with obama. in reality obama beat romney by about 6 points. in colorado romney's team thought they were up by 2.5. they actually wound up losing by 5.5. excuse me, i'm burping here. in new hampshire they had him ahead by 3.5. the reality, obama won by 5.5. these are like 9-point differences. his internal numbers were off in wisconsin, pennsylvania, and minnesota. a closer look shows more clearly why their confidence peaked right before the vote. over the last weekend there, the romney numbers showed romney gaining strong momentum in these key states. in wisconsin, obama lost 4 points in the polling just as romney gained 4 tying up the race. in new hampshire obama lost 4 while romney gained 3. the magazine quotes a romney aide on election night talking to romney's son tagg as the results were coming in. he looked like he was in a complete state of shock, as if these numbers cannot be real. to make matters worse, their polling told them florida and virginia, two states that romney lost, were in the bag. the republican party is
to get better. >> president bill clinton got president obama re-elected, perhaps he can help him talk to the other side, like speaker gingrich. maybe if the president won't call speaker boehner, maybe he'll call bill clinton. governor, as always, thank you. >> thank you, good night. >> senator jeff sessions demanding the fiscal cliff talks be taken out of the shadows. why does he accuse the president of secret negotiations? that's next. many small business owners saying they can't pay for obamacare. but that's not the only thing about the health care law that has them worried. a las vegas business owner tells you about another big problem, one you probably haven't heard about before that may be your problem. plus, he's back. who could forget the drunk guy singing bohemian rhapsody in a police car. wait until you see what he is up to now. you don't want to miss this. it istory of moms, has ever turned down a handmade ornament. that's why we sat up santa's wonderland at bass pro shops. kids can get their free picture with santa, and this week make a... all for free. >> greta: what is th
to the country and keep the grassroots momentum that had brought obama to office going after the election. two things happened. one, people felt that fizzled out. a lot of people said, wait a minute. we were good enough to invite to the dance but not good enough to dance with. others felt, we were brought in not organizing for america but organizing for obama. do we really have a voice in the health care debate. this time, they are trying to do it differently. the question is, what will the administration find as it goes out into the country. are its priorities in this discussion about the deficit, the people's priorities that brought the administration to office and what will they do at some of those meetings as people say, well, we also want to talk about raising the minimum wage. we also want to talk about workers and the condition of work in this country. that stimulus spending, maybe it is not big enough. there is definitely an effort to redo some of the mistakes of the last term. they are in the same peril louse situation. >> we are looking at the $1.6 billion in tax increases. those are
as presented by ambassador rice and president obama before an election. >> the meeting with the senators getting all kinds of media attention and might have pressed for the press to get more from the white house as jay leno noted. >> and this week, cbs news became the first news organization besides fox to ask president obama who changed the benghazi talking points? >> yeah, this is very dangerous for the white house, and suddenly start asking real questions. >> so, what about it, jim, if jay leno is asking that question, does it mean that the press might be finally catching on? >> i think a couple of things are happening here, first of all, the camort of race baiting against john mccain led by richard wolf and tour, don't forget the accent mark. and the meeting with rice went badly and susan collins prides herself as a moderate thinks worse of you, you've done a bad job on the your presentation. and adam credo, the new website called the washington free beacon has millions of dollars in investments of companies linked to iran and rattled off the list and how she got confirmed as a u.n.
heard a lot of soul searching in the weeks after president obama won re-election. here's how rnc chairman ryan pribus put it. >> don't draw any quick conclusions other than we lost and we know that. in order to get back in the game you have to look at and do a full autopsy on what happened. what we did well and what we didn't do well. >> from tax pledges to immigration and there is a whole lot to talk about. let's start with the no new tax pledge. a number of top republicans have come out saying they'll turn their back on the pledge if it gets a deal done on the fiscal cliff. >> i think a lot of people made the pledge 20 years ago, 50 years ago and i think they realize we're in a very critical time for our country and this issue has to be dealt with. revenues needs to be a part of the component and entitlement reform, true entitlement reform has to be there also in order for us to put this in the rear view mirror. >> that's a big change. so what would the former republican party flag bearer say. >> change can't be measured in speeches. it's measured in results. >> that was mitt r
be good. >> we're going towards the cliff. >> and so what happened is the election happened. obama wins. clearly he ran on raising tax or raising revenue from the top 2%. center piece. republicans are not stupid. they sort of understand that. so they went through a process the day after boehner said revenues but not rates, and some began to drift over, okay, rates, so you have had movement, until friday or yesterday, thursday, when tim geithner goes up there and delivers an ultimatum which is a chest thumping stick in the eye to the republicans. and all the migration suddenly stops and suddenly they get outraged apt are. and so they are back, they are going back to where grover norquist wants them to be because they are outraged because they feel they have been insulted is, that this is not a negotiation t a war. i think what had yesterday from the administration was a bit of negotiation incompetence because they pushed us, the psychological process the republicans were going through, which they have to go through has to be has been pushed way back. >> where do you think we are. >> i'm
think it's in the constitution. >> yes. and although president obama this because he got re-elected has he had has a mandate to do whatever he waumpbts, he forgets that the house republicans were also re-elected to kind of hold the line on spending. so no, i don't believe that would make it through congress. >> what about this utterance by the president today? instead of blasting congress, sort of saying he's keeping a list of congressmen? is this like a nixon enemy's list? we've seen this before from president obama. >> we have. we've seen multiple versions of the quote obama's enemies list. we saw the truth team, we've seen the white house work directly with the media matters to smear certain people that they don't like. and now we're seeing president obama say he has a naughty and nice list in order to make the nice list you have to push through his $1.6 trillion tax increase. so i think there'll be a lot of democrats who are actually making the naughty list this year. >> if he had actually come out with a program that had some spending cuts and some entitlement cuts instead of all t
on it all through the election to make obama look bad. i know that sounds like a conspiracy theory, but you have to look at what people are doing, not what they say they are doing. host: all right. let's move on to linda from tallahassee, florida. caller: i have been very disappointed in the republicans myself, and i have been a republican for a long time. this pastime i could not even vote republican because i was so aggravated in what i felt was misinformation from them. i am in the top 5% of american wealth. we owed nobody -- we have no bills. we know plenty of baker's. we felt these people were taking advantage -- would you are in the banking business, it is a public trust issue. they do not to make these loans and they made them anyway. i said, you should not be making these loans, it is not a good loan. it made them. they are not going to jail for it. nobody on wall street is going to jail. as a republican and a christian, if we are not holding their feet to the fired to do better it acts like christians and try to come to the table and figure out how to fix the problem that we have h
that the president -- >> the president-elect has been making friends north of the border. in washington, he assured president obama he was proposing a new security strategy to try to reduce the drug-related violence that marked his predecessor's time in office. far from the white house is the tourist resort. the only political experience before winning the presidency was his government here. it is one of the projects he is remembered fondly for in the town as well as building a new infrastructure. his friend and political allies have rejected the suggestion that the president is all style and no substance. >> he is a very straightforward man, very committed with an excellent vision of the country , an excellent statement, and he knows how to listen. dodge a municipality on the outskirts of mexico city where the tentacles of the drug violence have started to reach. it is a particular problem, on this wasteland, the bodies have been dumped which over a thousand killed during his time in power. he fights back tears as she shows me photos of her late daughter. the official version of events is that in
. president obama, we make the best of it. so, you really ordered up fireworks on election night, huh? governor romney, yeah, something like that. where did you even find all those people? it was like you had nasa labs cloning obama voters for the last four years. you can read the rest on "rolling stone's" website there. that is the only snippet we can put on the air. >>> rush limbaugh erupting over sandra fluke this time the women's rights activist is a contender for "time" magazine's person of the year. in february you might remember mr. limbaugh calling fluke calling prostitute on his radio show. here's what he says now. >> nobody would know who she is if it weren't for me. if anybody is going to be named person of the year on that basis, it ought to be me! >> no word from "time" magazine whether rush is being considered. >>> she is about to step down from her job as secretary of state. what will senator clinton do as encore and will it include another race for the white house? we'll talk to two people who have covered clinton for years. their insight into hillary's move, next. som
are suffering, no one from the federal, state or local government seems to care. president obama showed a lot of concern for the victims before election day. where is the concern from the administration now? we continue with speaker gingrich. some people still don't have power. a lot of people lost their home, everything. so many people have been conditioned mr. speaker to put their faith, their hope, their trust in government. can we learn anything from here? >> you can learn two things. first of all, if the federal government can't do any better than this with sandy what is it going to do with obamacare? how comfortable are you that the same bureaucracy that can't deliver help in staten island is going to supervise your heart operation or cancer treatment this is what i talked in the last segment. house republicans should beholding hearings. they should look at katrina, lessons that were not learned, reforms that were not made. the things that were not done. sandy is not dramatically better than katrina in terms of performance of the federal government. when we developed a department of hom
atlantic." lynn sweet, chief for "chicago sun-times." you wrote about this and you also say that the obama campaign is engaging supporters about how to move forward. even conducting a post-election survey of sorts. what do you know? >> we know that more than one million of the supporters answered it and we already know that this big obama army is working on fiscal cliff matters where they're sgogoing to be, t are mobilized to help support the president's plan to get the tax breaks in first, but we're learning history, finally. we're getting it in the first david alex raxlerod is talking he never thought that paul ryan would be the vice president pick. >> who did he think? >> he thought it would be rob portman to help in ohio or tim pawlenty. he never thought ryan because that would introduce medicare into the political conversation and distract romney from his main message of the economy. that's why he thought he never would pick him and, of course, he did, and, of course, it did change the romney mesage for a while. >> the president, molly ball, the president could be making a major decis
of their ideas about the budget. you know what, on health care, for example, obama care is a fact. it is a fact. and its -- that's what this election decided it is not going to go away. so any republican idea about how maybe there will be a better way to do it or maybe we shouldn't have done this, those ideas are obsolete. >> let me ask you something, you are forever and have been a supporter of no tax increases and you wrote an op-ed about grover norquist. i'm not asking about whether taxes should go up. but is the tax pledge, is that kind of behavior standing in the way of reinvention of the republican party? >> i don't think so. i think it's just the opposite. the reason that the left and some of your friends in the media have really, you know, ganged up on grover norquist, they have really been extraordinarily hostile in their tax against them is that this has been really the fortress of the republican party. that no tax position has been the defining issue for the republicans. i still think by the way it's a winning issue. americans don't like taxes. they do believe that we have to cut spe
's just been re-elected, he's the winner. the republicans were vanquished and i suspect president obama says i'll be calling the shots here. >> there is still a month left. we've got to have something to talk about for the rest of the month, right? you have to kind of look at this as sort of a poker game. everybody's going to sort of try to barter for as best a deal as they can get and know they are going to have to make concessions along the way. what he did is he went for it. he said look, i'm going to do $1.6 trillion in tax hikes, only $400 billion in cuts. he conveniently did not cut social security, medicare and medicaid which poll as the most popular programs and things that americans actually want. and if you look at it, 60% of americans actually support the idea of raising taxes and that of course goes beyond those that just voted for him. so he's going with what are the popular issues that i know i can get americans around me and i'm gointo put republicans in a really tight spot where they're going to have to either say look, we're going to make cuts to programs that we know t
.s.a. is is for a sitting president to pretty much ignore the best interest of the folks. president obama is doing something very strange right now. very strange and you should know about it. he only won the election by 3.5 million votes out of more than 120 million cast. he knows we're a divided nation answered also knows millions of americans don't believe is he looking out for them. he also knows that we have a budget situation that could send the country into bankruptcy. so it is on the president to solve the problem. this week, treasury secretary tim geithner offered the president's plan. it would raise taxes for high earning americans by $1.6 trillion over the next decade. that's on income, capital gains and dividends. also limit deductions for those folks. also return the estate tax to a whopping 45% for wealthy families. but on the spending front. there really isn't anything substantial on the table. nothing. the president basically saying i'm not going to cut much. and blank you if you don't like it. >> it's not just a bad deal. this is really an insulting deal. what geithner offered what you showe
was exhausted from the election. now the obama side is having people send out tweets and emails and playing this populist sight. i would say it seems exhaustive. it works. it has been working for the president. throw this out there. do you think this makes a lot of sense? in polls that i was looking at they have republicans, folks feel if the fiscal cliff going to happen they would blame republicans 20% over this. >> there o. this may be true. if there is another recession he is going to be the president. it's his recession it will not be john boehner's name 10 years from now? or are they going to stick this on president obama. here is president obama about the lack of progress in d.c. >> it was not a serious proposal. right now we are almost nowhere. let's not kid ourselves. i'm not trying to make this more difficult. people who have watched me over the last three weeks i have been very guarded in what i have to say. i don't want to make it harder for me or the president or members of both parties to be able to find common ground. >> boehner also said that he felt because of the fact that
presidential election where he travels at the obama campaign. alter the podium over to you now. >> with everybody take a seat. >> thank you all. i'm really looking forward to our discussion this afternoon. instead of doing opening statements, alaskan of a generic question that can help frame the discussion this afternoon and then we will go from there. since sarah, i will start with you in alphabetical order by somebody at the end of the alphabet. the question i pose to all of you is maybe if you could identify which you see as the most important lesson that we should draw from the experience of the past five years with respect to the fha. a part of that and i'd also ask is whether lawmakers and taxpayers should be prepared to accept some level of loss given the deep housing recession we found. i'll start with you. >> i just have to say how much fun it is for me to be back at cap. i think i think the big lesson regarding fha is that a core concept of the federal housing policy if it didn't work as well as we would've liked. it wasn't as nimble as it could've been in the crisis
ought not to be surprised that mr. obama is sticking to his guns. and congressional democrats, like house minority leader nancy pelosi, welcomed the president's plan. >> elections have consequences. the president campaigned-- he made it very clear, he made it very clear that he was supporting a tax cut for the middle class, that he wanted the expiration of the tax cuts for the highnd. and the american people know that debate, they voted for him. >> warner: still, despite all the tough talk, reporter todd zwillich of wnyc and public radio international says there's more movement behind the scenes than meets the eye. >> there does tend to be a pattern to how big negotiations like this go. the fact that they haven't reached an agreement yet doesn't mean they won't before christmas, doesn't mean they won't before new years. there is a value in doing some public posturing and trying to get the public and the media on your side in these negotiations. the speaker may be right, it may be a stalemate right now. but that doesn't mean a stalemate can't be broken. >> warner: there was no word o
. this is why president obama is playing to his strengths. the president has never had a problem rallying the american people to his side. >> understand this was a central question in the election. maybe thee central question in the election. we talked about this a lot. >> republicans are furious because they can't control this conversation. americans know where they stand on tax fairness and republicans are on the losing end. it's been a rough week. get your cell phones out. tonight's question, who has the upper hand in the fiscal cliff negotiations at this point? text a for president obama and b for the republicans to 622639. you can go to our blog and leave a comment. we encourage you to do that. i'm joined tonight by sam stein, political reporter for "the huffington post." don't you dare give me a hard time about the packers. who is winning the conversation with the american people? what kind of week was it on the hill? >> you can say the president is winning this conversation at this junction. these things change. a lot of this is posture. when you look at the circumstances that play
in that election. the caucus was divided in the house and senate on whether to extend the bush tax cuts for everyone. republicans were unified, they insisted it be extended for everyone. president obama ultimately made a deal to extend them as you know, for two years for all taxpayers, which is how we are where we are now. democrats are virtually in lock step showing cracks, saying maybe we need to extend for those in the middle. it's a different circumstance. i think the leverage on the tax side, at least is clearly with the democrats, stalemates mean the tax cuts expired and democrats are more willing to live with that than republicans are. >> when you read between the lines here, senate am dids are more willing to go over the fiscal cliff. do you think that's real or are they just posturing for the sake of the negotiation? >> i think that's real, the white house has been signalling since the summer of this year, that they are -- if the republicans don't budge on the tax side, on the revenue side, they are willing to let those -- to let the deadline expire, let the bush tax cuts all g
to raise taxes in this horrific obama recovery. debt and entitlement restructuring. that's what they voted for and the reason he's doing it now is because none of the democratic senators that were elected, and they did a great job, they really kicked our butts with these senators, none of them, not a one of them ran on increasing taxes on anybody in this kind of recovery. that top 2% are the job creators. they're small businesses. >> he also wants congress to give up that leverage over the debt ceiling because that is also presenting itself as another ugly battle. and you know what, paul begala, it is being said that that is one heck of a piece of boehner leverage. >> well, it is. but i think it's outrageous. i think this brinksmanship about the budget and the fiscal cliff is all just fine. i don't want to go over the cliff. >> does the president want to go over? we got to listen to all the republicans and the conservative media today are saying president obama wants to go over the fiscal cliff because then taxes go up across the board. >> which is not what the president wants, but there's
't be wusses about this we just elected you as representatives of the people to get to washington and rein it in. washington become as develop rent vent -- basketball as irrelevant in our lives please. >> president clinton go president obama reelected perhaps he can help him learn how to talk to the other side like he did with speaker gingrich and get something done. maybe in the president won't call speaker boehner, perhaps he will call bill clinton. i'm take the last word on that. governor as always, thank you. >> thank you. >> senator sessions demanding the fiscal cliff talks be taken out of shadows. why does he accuse the president of holding secret negotiations. he's here next. >> many small business owners saying they can't pay for obamacare. that is not the only thing about the health care law that has them worry. a las vegas business owner here to tell you about another problem. it may turn out to be your problem. >> plus, he's back! who could forget the drunk guy singing bohemian rhapsody in a police car. you don't want to miss this. ♪ ♪ this holiday, share everything. share "
. and that is that republicans were saying the very same things after they lost to president obama in 2008. this is not a new thing for republican party to go through this kind of soul-searching after losing a big and important election. and i think that's the important thing to note here. and that's what mike murphy is kind of saying too. look, they know it's not about technology. it's not about turnout. they do have to focus more on policies that indicator to a broader part of the electorate, and not just this small sliver that they've been talking. to. >> boris, you were making -- >> first of all, every party when it loses a big election, in 2000 the democrats went through it, 2004 they went through. you lose a big election, you have to look inside and see how you win. it's like anything in the world. sports teams are the same thing when they lose. >> it depends on the sports team. >> hopefully. >> you mentioned staying away from social issues. last week we heard from rick santorum, one of the 16, 17 front-runners in the gop field. apparently he may make a comeback in 2016. >> no. >> i don't think so? >>
with this was something created by congress and signed into law by president obama. so this is not a tsunami that just came by accident, mother nature. this was created by our elected public officials. should it go off, it will be nothing short of a nuclear weapon, a fiscal nuclear weapon. we have not only the increasing of capital gains taxes and marginal tax rates but 26-28 million americans are going to be subject to the alternative minimum tax. that is potentially $3700 additional tax liability. we have the elimination of the 2% social security benefit and up to $55 billion on the social programs. $55 billion out of defense on and on. this will be nothing short of a nuclear catastrophe. >> heather: we keep hearing how this is going to affect the higher income people. according to the congressional budget office, all americans will be affected if the deal is not reached. not just in terms of revenue but job loss. >> the crb o, congressional budget office is estimate being would literally take out of 4% of g.d.p. so potentially 2 million jobs lost. you are talking about $400 billion in increase. all
to the right a little bit. in this plan, obama knows republicans don't support stimulus money. they don't support $1.6 trillion in taxes. he's saying i won the election. we're going to start with a plan pretty far to the left and move slightly from there. he's playing hardball and saying they have to come to me. they have to accept tax increases. they have to spell out the spending cuts they want. he's trying to play a very assertive role in this discussion. >> all right. let's go here with you, dane that listen to speaker john boehner talking about this on friday about the president's plan. >> they want to have this extra spending that's actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut. i mean, it was not a serious proposal. and so right now we're almost nowhere. >> have you found almost nowhere on a map? do you know where we are? >> yes, it's in washington, d.c. right there in the center, the capitol, under the rotunda. it wasn't a serious proposal of course because it's not really a proposal. there's more posing and posturing going on in washington now than your typical yoga c
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